<![CDATA[Gawker: valleywag, baidu]]> http://tags.gawker.com/assets/base/img/thumbs140x140/gawker.com.png <![CDATA[Gawker: valleywag, baidu]]> http://gawker.com/tag/valleywag/baidu http://gawker.com/tag/valleywag/baidu <![CDATA[After All That Drama, Google China Loses Leader]]> Poor Google! The company's Chinese expansion hasn't been easy: they've been shamed for giving into government censors and continue to play second-fiddle to a state-supported competitor. And now they've lost their regional leader. What will become of the company?

Kai-Fu Lee joined the company back in 2004, when Google was beginning its adventure in earnest and became the giant's President of Google Greater China and vice president for engineering. Unfortunately, mean old Microsoft reared its head and sued Google, for Lee was bound by a pesky "no competition" contract clause. The companies eventually settled, and Google hoped to go full speed ahead into uncharted territories. China's government, however, had other plans, and soon lured the company into its controversial web of censorship and, to add insult to injury, favored competitor, Baidu.

Despite the uphill battle, Google has made a few strides in recent months and gained 6 percent on Baidu. But that means little, because Baidu still controls about 62% of search traffic, while Google has a scant 21%.

Now Lee has abandoned his post to pursue some hush-hush "new venture" in Beijing, and Google's attempting trying desperately to refocus its energies by splitting his duties between two executives while simultaneously double its sales force. After five years struggling to be the big wig, you would think Google would give up on imposing its capitalist ideals amidst an aggressive communist state. But that's the magic of the internet: it's a field of ambitious dreams rife with international and political barriers.

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<![CDATA[The 5 countries where the locals won't let Google win]]> World newspapers joined to call for the U.S. Justice Department to reject the Yahoo-Google deal yesterday, which is odd not only because the deal won't reach beyond the U.S., but also because Google isn't always the dominant search engine outside its home country. A story in today's Financial Times reminded us of this, pointing out that in China, Russia, Japan, South Korea and the Czech Republic, Google comes in second to the five companies below.

In Russia, 46 percent of all search queries go through Yandex, which the FT says plans to list itself on a US stock market this spring.

Seznam sees 63 percent of all searches in the Czech Republic. Google exec Mohammad Gawdat says its for a good reason, telling the FT his company "did not initially match the locals in the quality of its local language results."

CEO Eric Schmidt says Google has an excuse in China, where the government favored local company Baidu, which still controls 60 percent of all local searches .“All of us should tell the Chinese that their local markets need to be open to foreign investment, they need not favor their local competitors," Schmidt told the FT.

Japanese Internet users prefer portals to Google's simple search engine. It's one reason Google actually trails Yahoo in the country.

Naver in South Korea owns 60 percent of the search market. Portals are popular in the country, too. Naver's most successful feature, according to the FT, is a questions and answers service similar to Yahoo Answers. Google recently acqured blogging software company TNC in hopes of becoming more portal-like in South Korea.

The common theme among Google's global failures? Summarizes the FT:

Google has played second fiddle to rivals who invested much earlier, perfected their technology to work with local languages and came up with innovations that Google is now having to copy.
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<![CDATA[Once again, Vanity Fair leaves geeks at the kids' power table]]> Preeminent among the magazine world's kingmaking power lists is Vanity Fair's New Establishment, which appears in the October issue — on newsstands in L.A. and New York today, but not in the Bay Area for another six days. Silicon Valley gets similar short shrift: The names who make it there are predictable bigs like Steve Jobs and Larry Ellison, or Hollywood-crossover types like Jeff Skoll, eBay's first employee turned movie producer. Walt Mossberg, now employed by New Establishment perennial Rupert Murdoch, also squeaked in. The consolation prize Vanity Fair offers: Its "Next Establishment" list, reserved for the likes of Twitter's Ev Williams. It's a marvelous piece of New York media trickery — flatter the geeks by making them feel included, but corral them into a side room so the real power brokers aren't offended by comparison. True, the "Next Establishment" suggests that these are people who might matter in the future. But in saying that, Vanity Fair's editors are also sending the message that right here, right now, its "Next" nominees are nobodies. On this year's list:

  • Wendi Deng Murdoch, MySpace China
  • Chris DeWolfe and Tom Anderson, MySpace
  • Max Levchin, Slide
  • Robin Li, Baidu
  • Markos Moulitsas, DailyKos
  • Elon Musk, SpaceX
  • Ali and Hadi Partovi, iLike
  • Mika Salmi, MTV
  • Dmitry Shapiro, Veoh
  • Quincy Smith, CBS
  • Andrew Ross Sorkin, New York Times
  • Peter Thiel, Clarium Capital
  • Evan Williams, Twitter
  • Andrew Zolli, PopTech
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<![CDATA[Google plays catchup in China with MP3 search]]> Google announced today a search service, available only in China, to find and download MP3s from popular artists through partner Top100.cn, a Chinese music site funded by basketball star Yao Ming. Baidu, the search company which emerged from China's homegrown bubble and producers of crazy ads, has had MP3 search available since 2005, and many attribute its lead in its home market to that feature. [News.com]

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<![CDATA[Goldman Sachs is now 10 percent less impressed with Internet]]> Citing a more challenging consumer environment, greater customer-acquisition costs and investor reluctance to pay above-market prices for shares, Goldman Sachs today cut price targets for Internet stocks including Google, eBay, and Amazon by 10 percent. For more reasons why Wall Street is suddenly less impressed with your tech stock portfolio, see Goldman's entire report, embedded here:

Read this doc on Scribd: Goldman downgrades tech
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<![CDATA[Mac repairs set off Hong Kong celebrity sex scandal]]> All Hong Kong actor Edison Chen wanted was to get his MacBook repaired. Instead, he's on the front page of all the papers, apologizing for a celebrity sex scandal. See, Chen used his MacBook to store intimate photos of himself and Hong Kong starlets. In the clip above, CNN has footage of the offending MacBook. When Chen took it in for repairs, store workers uploaded the photos to the Internet. And now they're so ubiquitous China has censured popular search engine Baidu because certain keyword searches "have become the platform for displaying and spreading these filthy pictures."

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<![CDATA[Free music paves Google's way into China]]> greatwall.jpgWhen Eric Schmidt looks at Baidu, he doesn't see a China-grown website that accounts for 61 percent of search traffic because of its ease of use and mastery of the native tongue, as Baidu founder Robin Li claims. Instead, Schmidt sees a search engine beating the poo out of Google China because of its ease of use in downloading MP3s. (Nearly 100 percent of digital music downloads in China are unlicensed.) Schmidt's response?

Offer free, licensed music downloads to all of China. It is, in some ways, a brilliant move. In the U.S., when Google paid to license the music in uploaded videos, it raised the financial bar beyond what most YouTube's rivals could afford. It now hopes to beggar Baidu by forcing it to pay up, too — and the music industry is on its side. In Baidu's favor, however, is consumer indifference. In a country where you can buy bootlegs for pocket change, sanctioned MP3s are unlikely to be much of a draw. (Photo by Romain Guy)

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<![CDATA[How do you say "bubble" in Chinese?]]> Baidu vs GoogleAccording to Google Translate 泡沫 is Chinese for "bubble". Chinese search engine Baidu is up another 3.5 percent today to $378.35 — with a market cap just shy of Facebook's notional value at $12.8 billion. The FT Tech Blog notes that Baidu has a forward P/E ratio of 94 — that is, a comparison of its price to next year's earnings — trouncing Google's P/E of 54. Another Chinese search engine, Sohu, reported strong earnings today and anticipated future growth across the Chinese market because of advertisers' interest in the 2008 Beijing Olympics. A chart of Baidu and Google's stocks year-to-date is above.

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<![CDATA[Chinese search engine Baidu more than doubled...]]> Chinese search engine Baidu more than doubled its third-quarter profits over last year, bringing them to 181.7 million yuan or $23 million. Baidu is still dominating the market over there, seeing 60.5 percent of China's searches. Google is a distant second with 23.7 percent. [International Herald Tribune]

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<![CDATA[China is reportedly redirecting all Web traffic...]]> China is reportedly redirecting all Web traffic to domain names containing the word "search" to Chinese search engine Baidu.com. We suspect that Yahoo is secretly behind this, in a ploy to bid for sympathy before Congressional hearings. [Blogoscoped]

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<![CDATA[Almost 100 percent of digital music downloads...]]> Almost 100 percent of digital music downloads in China are illegally acquired, reports BusinessWeek. Search engines Baidu and Yahoo China both offer MP3-specific searches alongside traditional image and video queries. [BusinessWeek]

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<![CDATA[Google's new China plan: stop competing]]> Is this the best Kai-Fu Lee can come up with? Google went to considerable trouble to hire Lee away from MIcrosoft, sparking a messy dispute over his noncompete agreement. Now, Lee is overseeing noncompete agreements of his own. "If you can't beat them, join them" seems to be the essence of its new advertising partnership with Sina, one of China's most successful Internet portals. Sounds good, until you remember that Google tried this before: In 2004, it took a minority stake in Baidu, a search engine that's now beating Google soundly in the China market.]]> http://gawker.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=267862&view=rss&microfeed=true <![CDATA[Best Baidu: The story behind China's Google killer]]> "The Cold War is over," a friend of mine loves to say, "and Communism won." As the New York Times says, global U.S.-based Internet companies can't dominate the Chinese market — it's a whole different ballgame. And in search, the market is all Baidu's.

The Chinese search company not only has a home-team advantage over interlopers like Yahoo and Google, but it also has the support of the Chinese government, thanks to its cheerful compliance with government censorship. Clive Thompson reported in April that Baidu allegedly ratted out Google to the Chinese government, one of many competitive tricks the company is said to commit.

The Times, though, focuses on Baidu's founder Robin Li and his early adoption of "link analysis" (ranking sites by how many others link to them) and keyword ads in search results. And don't forget Baidu's advertised ability to recognize punctuation.

One more hint comes from the New York Times style. It's an old trick of the Times to put the marginalized story in the second rebuttal half of an article. ("...in short, McDonald's is optimistic. But a fast food critic says...") Savvy readers often skip to this bit for the "real" story. In this case, though, the Times waits until 3/4 through the piece to give some opposition time, and the sourced quotes are sparse there. This piece is a solid vote for Baidu.

The Rise of Baidu (That's Chinese for Google) [NY Times]

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<![CDATA[Google breaks up with Baidu]]> Google finally realized that enemies don't make the best bedfellows, and owning a stake in Chinese search leader Baidu might not jibe with reality. After all, Baidu's marketing strategy is to made a Google caricature bleed on TV. Its favorite competitive tactic is to print Google results and report them to the government — which, according to rumor, is why China blocked Google in 2002.

So kudos to Google for finally dropping the 2.6% share in Baidu that it took last year. Now Google has to stop getting blocked (yes, even the censored site sometimes isn't censored enough), rev up its marketing campaign, and find a way to keep the Chinese government happy without pissing off all the observers in the free world.

Google Searches for a Home in China [BusinessWeek]

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<![CDATA[Crazy Baidu search ad translated]]> Thanks, reader Laura Ma, for translating the crazy Baidu ad posted earlier today:

The tiles that flew from the sky are order from a Chinese emperor for catching wanted people. The word "jua" that accompanied each flying tile means "to catch" or "to search" in Mandarin.

The guy who received the tiles is the old time police who is in charge of catching (searching) wanted people. The people caught are different "famous" ancient Chinese characters (real or in fictions). One was a thief, one was a woman who was caught having an affair, etc., and the Caucasian of course is James Bond.

The ending tag line said "with Baidu, you can 'find' whoever you want to search for" and the end titles talked about how many Chinese web sites Baidu has on their database, etc. (talking about Baidu's search capability).

Cheeky! But an honest representation of that down-n-dirty style Baidu showed by ratting out Google in China. Life's more fun when your motto is "Be evil."

After the jump, another copy of that ad.

Earlier: What does this Chinese Baidu ad mean? [Valleywag]

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<![CDATA[What does this Chinese Baidu ad mean?]]> Baidu, the leading Chinese search engine, last told Google in an ad, "I know you don't know. I know you don't know I know. YOU DON'T KNOW." Translation proved that ad was pretty clever. So what the hell does this one mean? Free comment account to anyone who sends a translation to tips@valleywag.com.

Baidu ad [YouTube]

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<![CDATA[Google's wimpy flash ad]]>

Guge, the Chinese-branded Google service, recently released a pansy-ass watercolor ad. Shanghai blog China Snippets posts a translation (here's the SWF with sound). The ad copy includes wannabe koans like "One piece of information is like one blade of grass. Together they build up a big, green, endless lawn."

How wise. How placid. How boring. Can someone find a new Baidu ad? With swords?

Google "Guge" Valley Song flash movie translated [China Snippets via Google Blogoscoped]

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<![CDATA[Baidu makes evil look so good]]> baidu-man.jpgThis weekend in the New York Times Magazine, Clive Thompson deeply analyzes (for 10 pages! that's 100 pages in Internet time) Google's China entanglement. But some of the crooked stories feel like scenes from Inside Man — it's really fun to cheer for the bad guys. Maybe it's just leftover love from this old commercial, but Google rival Baidu seems crazy — crazy like a fox.

A young Chinese-American entrepreneur in Beijing told me that she had heard that the instigator of the Google blockade was Baidu, which in 2002 had less than 3 percent of the search market compared with Google's 24 percent. "Basically, some Baidu people sat down and did hundreds of searches for banned materials on Google," she said. [...] "Then they took all the results, printed them up and went to the government and said, 'Look at all this bad stuff you can find on Google!' That's why the government took Google offline."

Baidu denies it. But inside they must be thinking, "Man, we are badass."

Google in China: The Big Disconnect (page 3) [NYT Magazine]

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<![CDATA[Comments of the week: Pud trashes his clippings]]> pud-wsj.jpgBest comment of the week award (winner gets half the Webvan profits) goes to sarahka:

What's really funny about the Socializr offices to me (I live next door) is that they are in the building just-until-a-couple-of-months-ago occupied by Pud (who now owns AdBrite).

About 6 months ago, I was out walking my dog, and saw that there was all this AdBrite trash out front: old plaques with yellowed Wall Street Journal clippings profiling the genius who started the F*ed Company phenomenon, with little brass titles of the date of the Journal article.

If it weren't for the fact that they were likely already peed on by various dogs and homeless people, I totally would have taken them home.

After the jump, the four honorable mentions.

Makethelogobigger finds his own favorite Steve Jobs edition.

Going with a write-in candidate here: Noah Wyle as Jobs in his Tucker Carlson phase.

Kyle Bunch broke the Internet.

Sorry everybody, my fault. I accidentally tripped over a cord.

Blackjack loves Baidu's martial-arts play but knows revenge is inevitable.

Bad. Ass. But will we see a Google ad that continues this one by turning the swordsman into a pincushion like Jet Li's character in "Hero"?

dljfs wants Marissa Mayer to croak "Koyaanisqatsi."

"Larry used the scanner, and she flipped the pages of a book to the rhythm of a metronome. They managed to get through a 300-page thick book in little over 35 minutes."

Google is starting a band! Sounds sorta Phillip Glass-y. I bet the light show will be AWESOME.

Have a snappy comeback? E-mail it in and win a Valleywag comment account.

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<![CDATA[Google's Chinese rival hits Amex]]> Baidu is still running hot. The Chinese search engine still owns over half of all searches in China, with Google (who owns 2.6% of its rival) trailing at under a third. The stock tanked on NASDAQ last year, but it launched on Amex this Friday.

No word on whether Baidu will put out another ass-kicking promo ad. A YouTube user just revealed Baidu's ad from its NASDAQ debut last summer. (And we've already seen them beat up Google.)

American Stock Exchange to Trade Options On Baidu.Com, Inc. [PR News Wire]
Baidu.com, Inc. [Google Finance]
Baidu NASDAQ ad [YouTube]
Earlier: Baidu: Funnier than Google [Valleywag]

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