<![CDATA[Gawker: valleywag, fark]]> http://tags.gawker.com/assets/base/img/thumbs140x140/gawker.com.png <![CDATA[Gawker: valleywag, fark]]> http://gawker.com/tag/valleywag/fark http://gawker.com/tag/valleywag/fark <![CDATA[New York Mets to hold rickroll runoff]]>
Thousands of Fark and Digg users stuffed the virtual ballot box at Shea Stadium with requests for Rick Astley's "Never Gonna Give You Up" to play during the 8th inning. The Mets now say the team will hold a runoff, since the winning tune probably doesn't reflect true Mets fans' wishes. The Mets will play the top six selections during the first six home games. The song that draws the largest crowd response will win. Other song choices included "Livin' On A Prayer" by Bon Jovi and Julia Allison fave "Build Me Up Buttercup" by The Foundations. In the clip above, it doesn't sound like the crowd has much of a reaction to the song. We're glad the Shea Stadium crowd knows that rickrolling is dead, too. UPDATE: Major League Baseball has issued DMCA notices to remove video of the RickRolling.

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<![CDATA[Fark gets 1001 Diggs, still not "popular"]]> Digg founder Kevin Rose typically cites "the need for diversity" when questioned or criticized about the promotion algorithm that controls what stories make it to Digg's front page. "One of the keys to getting a story promoted is diversity in Digging activity. When the algorithm gets the diversity it needs, it will promote a story from the Upcoming section to the home page. This way, the system knows a large variety of people will be into the story." Oh, really? A Digg submission linking to headline aggregator Fark.com received over 1,000 diggs but still hasn't been promoted to the front page. The problem? The submission is 11 days old. Why are old stories so penalized? If there is a significant surge in Diggs on a story, it should be promoted to the front page just like any other upcoming submission. So much for the vaunted "algorithm."

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<![CDATA[Yahoo/Microsoft Photoshop contest winners]]> Last week we hooked up with Fark.com to run a photoshop contest: "What are we likely to see as the result of the Microsoft-Yahoo takeover?" Here are our favorite submissions.



Image above: shilrobot

JerryandBill.jpg~Latka

troy1ut9.jpg~bighairyguy

merger.jpg~scottennis

yimak5.jpg~CKBlack007

mooheadquartersyv6-1.jpg~swamp_of_dumb

cute%20noshit.jpg~Anonymous

Yahoobsod.jpg~Anonymous

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<![CDATA[Happy birthday, Drew Curtis!]]> Facebook is great. Not only can you reconnect with old friends and make new ones but you can publicly embarrass them too! Facebook helpfully informed me that today was Fark.com founder Drew Curtis's birthday. Turning 35, he can now be elected president. Glad to know my write-in vote didn't go to waste. Reached for comment at his home in Kentucky, Curtis said, "I'm legit now. Anything I say is believable, and now when I say shit, people will nod knowingly in agreement as opposed to discounting shit because of my age."

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<![CDATA[Fark/Valleywag Photoshop contest: the Microsoft-Yahoo takeover]]> We've partnered up with Drew Curtis at Fark to run a photoshop contest:

What are we likely to see as the result of the Microsoft-Yahoo takeover?

Do your best and post it on Fark or email it to us if you want to remain anonymous. We'll post the winners next week. (Photo by AP/Mark Lennihan)

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<![CDATA[Slobbering pup uncovers Digg's true purpose]]> I've always preferred editorially controlled news sources like Fark and the Drudge Report. I'm more likely to find links that I think are interesting. On "social news" sites like Digg, readers get endless Ron Paul and Apple links, as fanboys constantly vote for their preferred subjects. Occasionally though, something else makes it to the top of the social news pile.


Yesterday, a video of a pug puppy licking a screen got more than 14,000 Diggs. This from a website where a link is considered popular if it gets more than 1,000 Diggs. I'm relieved to have finally found the purpose for "social sites" like Digg or YouTube: the 21st-century version of America's Funniest Home Videos. Nothing meaningful ever happens, but it's a fun diversion.

For what it's worth, America's Funniest Home Videos remains massively popular and profitable. But no one mistakes it for the future of news. And what are the odds someone would pay $300 million for an online version of it?

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<![CDATA[New Digg algorithm angers the social masses]]> Yesterday, Digg went down for an hour in the middle of the day. Initially we thought it was an unplanned outage, but it turns out that a number of changes were made to the algorithm that controls which stories are "promoted" to the front page. The changes have started a mini-revolt among the top submitters reminiscent of the community uprising over Digg's deletion of HD-DVD unlock codes last year. We talked to several top diggers to find out what changed, why they're upset, and we have our own theory for why the changes were made.

The main change affects "top diggers," the few submitters who contribute a huge percentage of the stories that make the Digg front page. These users, who have all submitted thousands of stories each, submit more than 10 percent of stories that make the front page of Digg. Muhammad Saleem — known as msaleem on Digg — has submitted 1,201 articles that eventually made the front page. He tells Valleywag that prior to the algorithm change, it would take him between 110 and 130 Diggs for a submitted story to make the front page. Now, it can take more than 200.

A top digger submits a story, it gets 100 diggs and then sits there in upcoming queue for 8 to 10 hours getting 180-190 votes and not being promoted to the front page. Other stories with 40 votes (from newbie users) get promoted from under you. Everyone loses. Good content submitted by top users is doomed to fail.
highdiggnopromoteedit.pngAnother top digger, MrBabyMan is frustrated as well.
It seems a fairly transparent strategy to clean house of the submitters who have been dominating the front page for a while now. Essentially [they] adjusted the diversity factor to skew against popular submitters. Digg-critical stories are frequently buried before they ever reach the front page.
The lack of transparency at Digg has been criticized before. Diggs (votes for a story) are public, but buries (votes against a story) are not. Rumors abound of "bury brigades" which mass bury articles they disagree with — stories about a particular political candidate or written by a particular website, for example. The constantly changing Digg algorithm has never been made public, though guesses have been made as to what it contains.

Our theory? Digg is attempting to throttle the number of stories that make the front page. As more and more stories get promoted to the front page of Digg — FP'd, in Digg-lingo — stories spend less time in the spotlight. By increasing the number of votes it takes for a story to make the front page, turnover should decrease.

I also spoke to Drew Curtis, proprietor of Fark.com, a semi-competitor of Digg's, about the changes.

Fark is a benevolent dictatorship or as I like to call it, a house party. You can come in and have a good time with the rest of us but if you shit on the floors and tell me my sense of decor sucks and the beer is awful, you're gone.

Digg is like Student Government on any given campus. It's a full-blown governmental institution completely ignored by the administrators, created for the appearance of having a say in what's going on. No wonder there is chaos. Or maybe it's more like Soviet Russia, where you're told you've got freedom and a voice and can make a difference, but you really can't do shit.

Digg's trying to do one of two things, either improve the quality of submissions or drive the pageviews up. I would suspect the latter, once VC gets involved it's all about the money.

Digg founder Kevin Rose posted on the Digg Blog about the recent changes:
as we point out in our FAQ, occasionally you will see stories in the upcoming section with 100+ Diggs - this is evidence of our promotion algorithm hard at work. One of the keys to getting a story promoted is diversity in Digging activity. When the algorithm gets the diversity it needs, it will promote a story from the Upcoming section to the home page.
But Kevin, why won't you make these algorithm changes transparent? Why won't you make public who buries the stories? Why do you refuse to acknowledge the existence of moderators manipulating stories behind the scenes? Isn't "social media" about openness and transparency? Fark has never pretended to be open. There is editorial control behind every story that makes it to the front page.

If there continues to be manipulation and big brother-esque control behind the iron curtain of Digg, the users may soon give up and look for social news elsewhere, taking their pageviews with them. It's an open question, however, whether the masses of Digg users share the parochial concerns of top submitters.

I attempted to reach Digg CEO Jay Adelson and founder Kevin Rose via email. Rose was in a meeting at the time, and has not gotten back to me yet.

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<![CDATA[Fark applies for "Not Safe For Work" trademark]]> Fark.com LLC, Drew Curtis' company which operates the zany headlines site, has applied for a trademark on "not safe for work" with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office. Given how long "NSFW" has been around, we suspect it might be difficult getting the mark granted, never mind how Fark founder Drew Curtis proposes to enforce it. We suspect it might be part of a prank, but who knows? Only Drew. Maybe if we send him a beer, he'll spill the beans.

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<![CDATA[The name is "Fark," have you farking heard of it?]]> Gadget reviewer David Pogue of the New York Times has run so short of ideas that he's recycling a decade-old idea: Criticizing the absurdity of today's Web 2.0 domain names. But in rehashing what everyone else already knew, Pogue reveals just how far behind he is. "These are all actual Web sites that have hit the Web in the last year or so: Doostang. Wufoo. Bliin. Thoof. Bebo. Meebo. Meemo. Kudit. Raketu. Etelos. Iyogi. Oyogi. Qoop. Fark. Kijiji. Zixxo. Zoogmo." Fark? Last year or so? Drew Curtis's Fark.com as a collection of interesting headlines has been around since at least 1999.

Pogue, holed up in Connecticut, proves as out of touch as those wraparound-sunglassed hipsters who never seem to leave SoMa. The cheeky news site — based in Lexington, Kentucky, not San Francisco — has had its own Jeopardy category and is featured annually in Reader's Digest. The popular site's name was originally meaningless nonsense, sure, but it has come to mean the "crap," as Curtis puts it in his new book, that fills so much of the mass media.

By including Fark in a list that could otherwise go on without end, Pogue reveals how little he knows about Internet culture. Or maybe he's just hoping to attract some traffic from enraged Farkers. Too bad Fark users' informal rules forbid links to the New York Times.

Update: After multiple readers commented on the inclusion of Fark in the list, Pogue has conceded his error.

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<![CDATA[Why Drew Curtis is such a lucky Farker]]> Here's the thing about Drew Curtis, the hilarious, gregarious founder of Fark.com: He's supremely down to earth — but his life is out of this world. Very special correspondent Paul Boutin and I had dinner with him Tuesday night at a Peruvian restaurant. Boutin launched into one of his mile-a-minute anecdotes about something P.J. O'Rourke wrote. Curtis listened politely, then said, "Yeah, I went out for drinks with O'Rourke the other week." He actually slowed Boutin down for a second. Fark has gotten so big that Maxim now handles its ad sales. Yet Curtis still goes town to town meeting Fark fans and contributors. After dinner, I hung out at Cafe Murano with Curtis and a bunch of other Farkers, including one with the login "catbutt."



Here's more on the secret of Fark's success.

Like Slashdot, Fark is based far from Silicon Valley or another tech mecca. Its Kentucky base keeps Curtis in touch with his mainstream-America roots. A Fark Jeopardy category? "Fail," whine Uncov's dozen readers. Excerpts in Reader's Digest? "My grandmother reads that," sneers the Pownce set. Fox News producers troll his site for story ideas — blue-staters tell themselves no one's watching. Well, no one who matters. Ok, make that no one cool in downtown San Francisco — that only leaves the rest of America.

Fark's accessibility may be the key to longevity. Show Digg to any friend outside Northern California or high tech, and you'll have to explain the headlines. Fark's pithy summaries go into Reader's Digest and onto Jeopardy without an edit. Curtis's new book, It's Not News, It's Fark.com, has sold 35,000 copies. Gawker's much hipper hardcover? 242 copies. Score one for flyover country.

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<![CDATA[Fark makes Reader's Digest]]> rd_mag.jpgFor at least the third year in a row, Reader's Digest has excerpted a few headlines from totally-not-safe-for-work humor/craziness site Fark. After the jump, why you Digg fans should stop snorting into your lattes.

As a former RD contributor back when they had a tech page — typical article: How to shop for a photo scanner so you don't have to fight over Grandma's scrapbook — I know what you're thinking: No one reads Reader's Digest. You'd know better if you had checked Wikipedia first:

The Audit Bureau of Circulation says Reader's Digest is still the best-selling consumer magazine in the United States, with a circulation of over 10 million copies in the United States, and a readership of 38 million as measured by Mediamark Research (MRI). According to MRI, Reader's Digest reaches more readers with household incomes of $100,000+ than Fortune, The Wall Street Journal, Business Week and Inc. combined. Global editions of Reader's Digest reach an additional 40 million people in more than 70 countries, with 50 editions in 21 languages including a Spanish language edition called Selecciones.
That's a lot of new Fark fans. Anyway, from page 104:
It's News to Me

Let's face it, the news can be dull. That's where fark.com comes in. They give you the real story, with their own twisted take.

"Study shows three out of four women would rather get a plasma TV than a diamond necklace." In other news, only one if four women can keep her husband from signing her name on surveys.

"Hundred-year-old who entered college in 1925 gets degree." Claims he had to graduate now because his dad was tired of paying tuition.

"IRS commissioner to head Red Cross." Says getting blood from people should be no problem.

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<![CDATA[Farking events]]> DrewCurtisGlamourShot.pngTonight, meet and greet and meet and greet. Startup networking, the future of music, and some guy from Kentucky will all be out in today's Valleywag Calendar.

  • Startup mixer Stirr is back for a "Founder's Hacks" event. Ev Williams from Blogger and Twitter, Jangl and Ooma founder Michael Cerda, and Friendster and Socializr founder Jonathan Abrams will be on hand to share tricks they've learned in their entrepreneurial endeavors. 6 p.m. at Mighty in Potrero Hill. [Eventbrite]
  • There's a "Media Web Meetup" on the topic of music copyright and creative commons and what the future of digital music is going to look like. Fun topic! But it starts at 1 p.m. in SoMa, so it's not for people with real jobs or something. If you work at Yahoo Brickhouse, however, feel free to go. [Upcoming]
  • Fark founder Drew Curtis, the washed-up male figure skater pictured above, will be at Cafe Murano on Steiner Street for a Fark meetup tonight at 9 p.m. Expect beer. [Google Groups]
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<![CDATA[Fark headlines hit "Jeopardy"]]>
Digg? Way too geeky. Reddit? Haventheardofit. No, the first social-news site that middle America has now heard of is Fark.com. Drew Curtis's rowdy, raunchy discussion board made it onto Jeopardy. In the clip above, host Alex Trebek asks contestants for questions based on answers drawn directly from real headlines featured on Fark. Granted, these were a bit more sanitized than the typical Fark fare — but still, it's invaluable exposure for the oft-neglected site.

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<![CDATA[How much is Digg worth?]]> Compete.com chart on Digg's traffic growth"I would like to deny that Fark will be sold for $750 million. I cannot confirm talks at this time. I also cannot confirm that Jason Calacanis has sex with sheep." That's what Drew Curtis, the acid-tongued, whip-smart founder of Fark, a social-news site which competes with Digg, emailed me after reading our rumor of the impending sale of his rival for $300 million. Curtis is obviously dismissive of the mooted Digg valuation. And I've heard lots of scoffing on that number — both ways. It tends to fall in an obvious pattern: East Coasters think $300 million is way too high, and West Coasters think it's way too low. Compete's Jay Meattle crunches the numbers and finds arguments for both sides.

Digg's user base is two-thirds the size of Facebook's, which just garnered an investment from Microsoft valuing the company at $15 billion. On the other hand, Digg's users are much less active on the site. Advertisers are ultimately buying users' attention, and whether measured by pageviews or time spent on the site, Digg falls short. Still, with an audience that has grown sevenfold in a year, and investors desperately looking for a home for their cash, Digg surely will be sold based on a buyer's future hopes, not present reality.

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<![CDATA[Techmeme traffic doesn't add up]]> techmeme.pngHow overrated is blog-post-ranking site Techmeme, so much in this week's news? Scoring the top slot on the site's front door is good for bragging rights if you're a tech blogger. But if you value pageviews more than props, here's the hard truth: Techmeme's prize position will only send around 1,000 direct clickthroughs to your post, according to bloggers I pinged. As for the "influencing the influencers" theory so popular with second-tier PR firms, topping Techmeme means at most 5,000 extra pageviews total from around the Web, say sources who've been there several times.

That's a lot for a small-time blogger, but nothing for news sites that pull 40,000 to 1,000,000 readers per story. If you're hoping to bring the world to your door, forget Techmeme and go get yourself Dugg for 50,000 clicks — or better yet Farked, where 100,000 readers will be directly linked to your site without Digg's story summaries. If you've got a real news scoop, send it to Matt Drudge — your server can handle a million hits, right?

Got more precise numbers? Gabe? Post 'em in the comments. The bigger publishers' reluctance to share on the record is exasperating.

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<![CDATA[It seems that the mainstream media is too...]]> It seems that the mainstream media is too busy writing about shark attacks and traffic patterns to review the media-zinger from Fark.com founder Drew Curtis, It's Not News, It's Fark. Luckily, Slate steps up and tells it like it is. Four months late. [Slate]

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<![CDATA[Anarchic headline-discussion site Fark's...]]> Anarchic headline-discussion site Fark's predictably juvenile — if completely on target — take on a videoblogger's departure from mainstream TV: "Amanda Congdon and her world-class breasts are gone from ABC.com" [Fark]

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<![CDATA[Fark vs. Fox: here come the lawyers]]> Darrell Phillips Valleywag first reported the allegations last month, and now lawyers for news aggregation site Fark.com have made it official. This week, a lawsuit was filed in a Lexington, Kentucky courthouse alleging that a Kentucky-based Fox News reporter attempted to hack into Fark's servers. The one surprise — the defendants are named as "John Does 1-10," instead of an individual person. But that doesn't mean that the main suspect, Fox News reporter Darrell Phillips (pictured above right, after the jump), is off the hook. "We needed to be able to file subpoenas to get the final information from his net service providers," Fark.com founder Drew Curtis (pictured above left) IM'ed earlier today. Have more information on this developing story? Let us know.]]> http://gawker.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=299681&view=rss&microfeed=true <![CDATA[Fark.com founder tells how to distinguish news from crap]]>
If you've ever wondered what life is like as a new media mogul, watch this interview with Fark.com founder Drew Curtis. In addition to running the essential news aggregater and catching a Fox TV reporter in an apparent attempt to hack his site, Curtis is also the author of It's Not News it's Fark, the closest thing we have to a textbook on how the media works in the Internet age. The interview embedded above is a few weeks old, but it's informative, funny, and a good way to spy on the backyard of someone whose site is a daily read for newsmakers and journalists. He even keeps his pants on!

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<![CDATA[Fark legal net tightens on Fox-linked hacker]]> Darrell PhillipsRichard Thompson, a blogger who tracks the Memphis, Tenn. news scene at Mediaverse Memphis, has done a follow-up interview with Drew Curtis, the founder of Fark.com. Last week, Curtis, left, fingered Darrell Phillips, to his right, a new media manager at News Corp.-owned TV station WHBQ Fox13, as an all-but-certain suspect behind attempts to hack into the site. He based his accusation on an all-but-conclusive trail of electronic evidence. Thompson, at first skeptical of the accusation, seems to be giving it more credence, as Curtis confirmed that Fark has plans underway to seek legal action. After the jump, the latest revelations.

Thompson: What's the possibility that Fark could be wrong? And if that happens, what can be done to redress Phillips' damaged reputation? Curtis: Our chances of being wrong are close to nil. Even with the information we currently have we're standing at 99.9%. Our data indicates that only one individual was using the dphillips Fark account for the entire time it's been in existence. That individual worked at Fox, used a Verizon Wireless card, and a Comcast cable modem account in the Memphis area.

It's either Phillips or he's been completely owned by someone else, who coincidentally has access to all of his websites, email accounts, PayPal information, work and home computers. That's a huge stretch.

It's important to note that Fox is not currently a target of Curtis's legal action. "We don't believe at this time that Fox13 had anything to do with this," Curtis tells Thompson. Curtis's lawyers are preparing requests for subpoenas, expected to be filed next week, to get information from Internet service providers in hopes that that data will link, conclusively, the hacker's access attempts to accounts owned by Phillips.

Given that, it's odd that the Fox station has made no comment in this matter. Odd, especially, because according to Thompson, the station had promised a statement earlier this week, but none has materialized. At this point, some might say that Fox's silence is beginning to speak volumes.

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