<![CDATA[Gawker: valleywag, marketwatch]]> http://tags.gawker.com/assets/base/img/thumbs140x140/gawker.com.png <![CDATA[Gawker: valleywag, marketwatch]]> http://gawker.com/tag/valleywag/marketwatch http://gawker.com/tag/valleywag/marketwatch <![CDATA[How to Pry Money Out of Google]]> The New York Times and Washington Post are in informal talks about the online news business. The obvious subtext: The newspapers want Google to pay for their headlines. They're going about it all wrong.

The morosely moribund newspaper industry is looking for a bailout. The government and Google are the only people with cash on hand these days; even superstar investor Warren Buffett, who owns stakes in the Post and the Buffalo News, says he won't put more money into the business.

A government handout to watchdog institutions is unseemly, so the papers are understandably targeting Google. Howard Kurtz reports in the Post that his employer is talking to Google about "improved ways of creating and presenting news online." Timesblogger Brian Stelter has Twittered that his bosses are doing the same.

Oh, so the newspapers want preening, self-important executives like Google VP Marissa Mayer to boss around their Web designers the way they do underlings at the Googleplex? Unlikely. They want cash, and soon.

It's sad that their writers are resorting to tactics they accuse bloggers of, like inventing facts out of whole cloth to serve their arguments. Take Times columnist Frank Rich, who insulted every non-newspaper journalist on the planet with this fabrication:

Just because information wants to be free on the Internet doesn't mean it can always be free. Web advertising will never be profitable enough to support ambitious news gathering. If a public that thinks nothing of spending money on texting or pornography doesn't foot the bill for such reportage, it won't happen.

Tell that to to CNET News, the tech news site which has won awards for its reporting. Or the citizen journalists of the Huffington Post, whose scoops shaped the last election. Or the experienced ink-stained wretches of Politico, some of whom worked not long ago at the Times and the Post. For that matter, the implication that journalism only happens when readers pay is nonsense. Look no further than the decades-old traditions of deep, original reporting found on radio and TV institutions like NPR and 60 Minutes, whose broadcasts come absolutely free of charge.

Kurtz, too, indulges in the occasional unreported fiction posing as fact:

Hanging over the talks is the reality that the search giant, while funneling vital traffic to news sites, vacuums up their content without paying a dime.

This "reality" is more of a collective delusion shared only by the newsrooms of America.

Then there are straight-out guilt trips: If Google doesn't pay for journalism, who will?

None of these tactics — begging, propaganda, guilt — seem to be working. That's because Googlers are smart, and they see that the newspapers have absolutely no leverage. We have a simple proposal for the executives of the Post and Times: Sue Google.

If they believe in their arguments, that Google is doing something improper with their content outside the bounds of fair use, then they should make their case in a court of law. Yes, they'll get brickbats from the blogosphere, but they're already losing in the court of opinion. And until there's a threat hanging over Google's head, there's absolutely no reason for them to open up their pocketbook.

It's a risky course. Google might respond with an alternative proposal: Instead of paying for the newspapers' headlines, why doesn't it charge them for the traffic it sends to their websites? There's ample precedent.

Larry Kramer, the newspaper executive who founded MarketWatch and now works as a venture capitalist, once told me a story about his company's dealings with Yahoo Finance. The stocks website was sending MarketWatch tons of free Web traffic through links on its site. MarketWatch executives were thrilled. But as it readied itself to go public, MarketWatch's investment bankers got nervous. What if Yahoo pulled the plug on the links? MarketWatch ended up signing a contract to pay Yahoo, in exchange for a guarantee.

Google has long resisted such pay-for-play links in its search results, segregating out commercial links as clearly marked ads. But the newspapers' whiny intransigence might test its morals. We'd like to see both sides put their money where their mouth is, and act to back up their stances — the newspapers, that content is worth paying for, and Google, that links have value. Better than this namby-pamby talk of talks.

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<![CDATA[MarketWatch editor on stock market: "oh s—-"]]> The offending sentenceToday was tumultuous for the stock markets, and the up-and-down swings took their toll on one MarketWatch editor, who typed "oh shit" into a subhead on the homepage. Whoever it was, we salute you for honesty in financial reporting. Rupert Murdoch, your new owner, should be proud.

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<![CDATA[Kara Swisher's plan for the Journal has more "promiscuity"]]> Kara Swisher thinks the Journal needs to get aroundNow that News Corp. appears to have locked up Dow Jones, publisher of the Wall Street Journal, every journalist on the planet is volunteering to be an unpaid consultant to Rupert Murdoch. I'm sure he appreciates the free advice. The News Corp. CEO is so known for taking it, after all. First up, there's Kara Swisher's tabloid-headlined call for more "promiscuity," which I was about to get behind. Talk about a paper that needs sexing up! But then I discovered that the word, in Swisher's hands, has gone entirely limp. Her deflated meaning?

By "promiscuity," Swisher just means ubiquity. The print Journal may not actually change that much — and it may not need to. But Journal-branded financial content needs to spread far and wide online. When it comes to distribution partners, in other words, Dow Jones needs to sleep around. Instead of just playing footsie, for example, as it's doing with Barry Diller's IAC, with which it has plans to create a financial-news website for the MySpace crowd, Dow Jones really needs to slut it up.

Larry Kramer, the founder of MarketWatch, has taken a break from advising venture capitalists to advise Murdoch, too. (Note to Kramer: I hear the VCs pay better.) He'd like to see his baby, which he sold to Dow Jones in 2004, become the Internet flagship of Murdoch's push into Internet journalism. It's true that MarketWatch has stagnated under Dow Jones; unlike previous partner CBS, MarketWatch's current owner has a minimal presence in TV and online video. Kramer would like News Corp.'s new Fox-branded business channel, a would-be CNBC competitor, to be named "Fox MarketWatch." That's a solution that would please many in the Journal newsroom, too, who don't want to see the newspaper's brand sullied by association with Fox TV practices. The San Francisco-based MarketWatch, by contrast, would be grateful just to have the free promotion from TV again.

And my advice? Well, I don't work for Murdoch for free. I'll just say this — as a gossip blog, it's hard to dislike a mogul who's as likely to make headlines as to write them.

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<![CDATA[Larry Kramer, founder of the MarketWatch...]]> LinkedIn]]]> http://gawker.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=284115&view=rss&microfeed=true <![CDATA[UnBoomed unwound]]>

I am as tired of Rocketboom split-up news as you are.

I lied.

  • The story of Amanda Congdon and Andrew Baron (and guest star Steve Jobs!) told in panels. EVERYTHING'S FUNNIER WITH COMICS! [Transparent Agenda]
  • Blaugh, the un-comic by bloggers Chris Pirillo and Brad Fitzpatrick, puts an image in our brains that can only be worked out with years of therapy and Ze Frank shows. [Blaugh]
  • Marketwatch reporter Frank Barnako is so over Amanda Congdon. Apparently she's hot? And apparently that's part of the reason a viewer base made of middle-class men watched her? This is all news to me. [Frank Barnako]
  • Reading over everyone's suggestions for the next Rocketboom host...starting to see a trend...can't put my finger on it... [Michael Parekh]
  • Elsewhere in vlogging, Carson Daly makes the first "saw you on YouTube" hire. She's cute, she's probably 16, Carson called her an "exciting package," and that's not at all creepy. [Video Podcasting News]
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<![CDATA[Remainders: Photobucket — it's alive!]]>
  • MarketWatch launches a fake stock market. Now everyone can play-act as Larry and Sergey — "Oh no! My billions!" [Bambi Francisco]
  • Google has enough open positions posted online to add another 27% of its current workforce. Yahoo, 8%. (Sun Microsystems, somewhere in the negative.) [GigaOM]
  • Flickr cranks it up from beta to gamma, introducing a new level for companies to get stuck at before 1.0. [Flickr]
  • Mule Design lays out Michael Arrington's TechCrunch redesign faux pas all fair-like. [Mule Design blog]
  • Neat trivia tidbit: Photobucket is still alive and still sucking up VC funding. [Business Wire press release]
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    <![CDATA[Scott McNealy: so NOT out of Sun]]> mcnealy-teeth.jpgScott McNealy will resign as CEO of Sun Microsystems, according to a Forbes story reportedly in the works. But when a journalist (and tipster) called Sun, they'd heard no such thing.

    The story might have started at the more risk-taking MarketWatch, which spun an analyst report ("given this, this, and that, McNealy's work might be done here") into a prediction ("oh, he's so out"). Now a pundit-driven rumor will be presented as fact, sparking a media rush on the story and eventually convincing the actual subjects to hold on for a while. And you know we just hate that sort of thing.

    Sun Micro CEO could be gearing to leave - analyst report [MarketWatch]
    Earlier: Lloyd Braun becomes (more) useless to Yahoo [Valleywag]

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