<![CDATA[Gawker: valleywag, steve chen]]> http://tags.gawker.com/assets/base/img/thumbs140x140/gawker.com.png <![CDATA[Gawker: valleywag, steve chen]]> http://gawker.com/tag/valleywag/stevechen http://gawker.com/tag/valleywag/stevechen <![CDATA[YouTube's Changing of the Guard]]> The image associated with this post is best viewed using a browser.YouTube co-founder Steve Chen has quietly left his baby behind, moving to a different Google division. Fellow co-founder Chad Hurley might leave too, PaidContent writes. Now comes a more Hollywood future for the video-sharing site.

It's no secret that YouTube needs to make money; its annual losses have been estimated at between $175 million and $471 million. Meanwhile, Hulu may have already matched the ad revenue of YouTube, which is twice Hulu's age, thanks to old-media-friendly content.

The more completely Google breaks with YouTube's past, the easier it will be for CEO Eric Schmidt to cozy up to the movie and TV studios from his new house in Southern California. Who knows, the Hollywood honchos might even forget they once sued the guy.

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<![CDATA[YouTube goes live after all]]> On November 22nd, YouTube will host a two-hour event in San Francisco, "a celebration of the site's vast user communities." Looks like we can expect performances from Akon, Soulja Boy, will.i.am and a bunch of online video-powered Weblebrities. And it will be broadcast live over the Internet. So, it turns out that Steve Chen was right after all — YouTube will have introduced live streaming video by the end of the year.

And departed Silicon Alley Insider reporter Michael Learmonth wasn't entirely wrong in his article saying that Google had nixed the idea. Google and YouTube won't necessarily be offering live streaming video to users of the site any time soon. Why, when the search advertising company is already stuck subsidizing YouTube and venture capitalists are happy to continue subsidizing sites like Justin.tv and Ustream with their own money?

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<![CDATA[YouTube's Steve Chen decorating a penthouse downtown]]> Is Google's Marissa Mayer getting a coworker for a neighbor? Word on the tipline is that YouTube cofounder Steve Chen is putting together a high-tech bachelor pad:

A friend who's a contractor says Steve Chen is building a tech-heavy penthouse on the top floor of the Ritz-Carlton. Lots of video screens and stuff. That's all I know.

I'm just guessing that this isn't in the neoclassical Ritz-Carlton hotel on Nob Hill, but in the residential apartments built atop the old de Young building that's managed by Ritz-Carlton. When Chen is all moved in, I imagine mid-Market penthouse neighbors Mayer and Al Gore dropping by, the latter with a stern lecture on the importance of climate change and the former with a box of cupcakes. (Photo by Allan Ferguson)

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<![CDATA[Google nixes Steve Chen's YouTube live video plan]]> In a moment of what now seems like irrational exuberance, YouTube cofounder Steve Chen declared that the popular online video site would add live video streaming this year. Not so fast, says Google. YouTube is already struggling with the concept of profitability, and according to an anonymous source cited by Silicon Alley Insider's Michael Learmonth, Chen's idea is a financial black hole:

YouTube execs estimated that if just 10 percent of the service's users took advantage of live streaming, the company would have to add 20 to 25 percent to its huge server and bandwidth infrastructure to support it.

Sounds like another sign that YouTube's popularity, while giving it a great position in the market, has become something of an Achilles' heel — every video played, every user added cost the company money, and neither creators or consumers are paying. Advertisers are only interested in a small percentage of videos on the site, and YouTube can't even sell all of that inventory. So adding new features such as live streams or improving quality would only serve to dig Google's $1.65 billion money pit even deeper. The episode is enlightening in one regard, though. It demonstrates how much influence YouTube's founders have at the company — little to none.

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<![CDATA[What Viacom really wants to know about YouTube videos]]> What is Viacom really after in its $1 billion lawsuit against Google over YouTube? Despite a lengthy invite list, Viacom PR was only to drum up "a small press gathering" to listen to CEO Philippe Dauman at a screening for Tropic Thunder last night, according to Greg Sandoval's report on News.com. Dauman called YouTube a "rogue company" — and expressed disappointment that Google did nothing to rein it in. Viacom's now being painted as a rogue itself, seeking to violate YouTube users' privacy in requesting viewing logs from the site.

Nonsense. How typically self-important of Internet users, to think that Viacom cares about the dozens of South Park videos they watched. Viacom is not being disingenuous in saying it never meant to violate Internet users' privacy, I've come to believe.

So why are they seeking the data? The case revolves around the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, which gives Internet service providers a "safe harbor" for hosting copyrighted content. But that protection rests on the notion that the people who operate a website don't really know what's on it.

If Viacom can show YouTube cofounders Chad Hurley and Steve Chen, or other top officials, viewed copyrighted content while logged into the site, wouldn't that weaken YouTube's rights under the DMCA? Even worse, what if Hurley or Chen uploaded copyrighted clips themselves?

Tellingly, in reaching a deal to protect YouTube users' privacy, Viacom and Google excluded data about YouTube and Google employees' use of the site.

Google's best defense might be to go negative, airing reports about Viacom executives' use of the site. That might not give YouTube any more legal protection — but it would make its legal foes squirm. Viacom's Ifilm subsidiary, for one, has been caught hosting copyrighted content without permission.

There's one thing that might save Chad and Steve: They've never seemed that interested in online video. The pair, both former PayPal employees, stumbled onto the idea, and conceived of YouTube first as a site to host shopping videos for eBay listings, then as a video-dating site. They've always been more interested in cynically exploiting online video as a business than exploring the potential of the medium. An announcement of Google's sale to YouTube is one of the few times the two actually made an appearance on it.

So there's the irony: The less Chad and Steve used YouTube, the more likely they'll come out of this lawsuit unscathed. But Viacom's legal strategy suggests that every video they viewed will count against them.

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<![CDATA[B is for Botha, who sold YouTube big]]> Few people outside Silicon Valley have heard of Roelof Botha. But the former CFO of PayPal is famous here. His two claims to fame: negotiating that company's $1.5 billion sale to eBay, and later, as a partner at Sequoia Capital, investing in YouTube and quickly flipping the startup to Google for $1.65 billion. Is it a coincidence that that figure is 10 percent higher than his PayPal score? Few insiders think so. Botha gets four pages in Sarah Lacy's Once You're Lucky, Twice You're Good — more than Google cofounder Sergey Brin. Other figures who appear on the second page of her Web 2.0 book's index: John Battelle, Ning CEO Gina Bianchini, Facebook board member Jim Breyer, blog blowhard Jason Calacanis, and YouTube cofounder Steve Chen, whom Botha made quite wealthy.

Web 2.0, A-C

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<![CDATA[Metacafe founders take their $5 million and go]]> Metacafe-thumb.jpgMetacafe cofounders Arik Czerniak and Ofer Adler — neither involved with the company's day-to-day operations — will walk away from the company with $2.5 million each, according to TheMarker. If $5 million seems like a lot, remember that YouTube cofounders Chad Hurley and Steve Chen each cleared $326.2 million selling out to Google and that Czerniak and Adler might have turned down a $200 million to $700 million offer from Yahoo. All of which makes it even more fun to watch the video embedded below, recorded just weeks after Google purchased YouTube, where Czerniak tries to convince Bambi Francisco that Metacafe is "the largest, most popular video site."


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<![CDATA[Chad Hurley, Steve Chen and YouTubers party with Pussycat Dolls in Vegas]]> PussyCatDollYouTube.jpgYouTube cofounders Chad Hurley and Steve Chen partied in Las Vegas over weekend, taking to the VIP sections at Caesar's Palace and the Luxor, a nerdspotter tells us. At Caesar's Hurley, Chen and a crew of about 25 YouTubers — early employees, we hear — lounged around Club Pure, taking in a Pussycat Dolls show (an example in the clip below). Our tipster tells us the group partied not like rock stars, but "cool nerds." Anyone have a visual explanation of what that looks like? Send in your cameraphone spy clips of Chen & Co., or better yet, post them to YouTube.

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<![CDATA[Yahoo is less prudish than Google]]> The customer service team in Sunnyvale knows all about the porn on Yahoo Video, but vice president Laura Narducci, who is responsible for managing the video site, could care less. "She hemmed and hawed over how awful it was, but no measures to prevent it were put in place," Valleywag's tipster tells us. Yahoo's been around a lot longer than Google, and knows what kind of traffic and revenue prurient interest can generate online. Given Steve Chen's latest comments, YouTube may finally be wising up to the money Google is leaving on the table by not offering a blue room.

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<![CDATA[Steve Chen says reviewing graphic clips is "impossible task"]]> YouTube cofounder Steve Chen worries about graphic rape clips on YouTube. But not enough to do something about it, because he thinks it is important for uploaded videos to be available for immediate viewing. Also, given that 10 hours of content is uploaded every minute, it would be impossible to screen each video before displaying it on the site. Chen told the Sydney Morning Herald that YouTube has to "rely on the millions of eyeballs from the community rather than the hundreds that we have [internally] on the site." YouTube is also developing a technology to prevent a clip which was deleted from being uploaded again. The TV and movie studios whose clips helped give Chen's YouTube a $1.65 billion payday don't have a problem hiring people to review content on the site. Stopping depictions of violence against women, though? Leave it to the servers. Google has plenty of them. (Photo by ideali)

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<![CDATA[Screenshots of YouTube videos in HD]]> YouTubeHD.jpgYouTube began testing HD last fall. Now it's here. Sort of. A tipster nabbed this screenshot of a YouTube video which gives the use the option to "watch this video in higher quality." We tried it out and took screenshots from the same frame in the video. Comparison shots, below.

Normal quality:
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Higher quality:
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The full-screen comparison isn't exactly startling. Here's a detail that makes the distinction clearer.
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<![CDATA[Ustream.tv and Justin.tv respond to YouTube's live streaming gauntlet]]>

YouTube cofounder Steve Chen confirmed that YouTube is working on a live streaming product which would put it in competition with lifecasting startups like Ustream.tv and Justin.tv, as well as the "experimental" Yahoo Live service. We asked Justin.tv CEO Michael Seibel and Ustream.tv CEO Brad Hunstable how their companies felt about the move.

Michael Siebel, Justin.tv:

Justin.tv is the biggest live video startup with the most traffic, the most registered users, and the best community. But it wasn't easy to get to the top spot. There are many hard problems to building and scaling a live video site and Yahoo Live is going through those pains currently. I think YouTube will face similar challenges.
Brad Hunstable, Ustream.tv:
YouTube's reported plans to move into live video is important validation for the market and will bring more awareness to the ways live video is changing the way people access media online. Ustream.TV has been singularly focused on live video broadcasting for more than a year now, and has built a large base of regular, compelling broadcasters who use our simple, reliable and robust platform to stream compelling, event-based content to a broad range of audiences across the globe, many of which weren't before privy to such media. Our growth is further evidenced by the traction we have gained through partnerships with leading companies such as Veoh, Digg, Sun Microsystems, the Republican National Convention, Bebo and others; the 200,000 broadcasters and millions of viewers that are now using our site regularly, and the daily growth we continue to experience. We welcome YouTube to this growing market and are glad that even more consumers will have access to great live video content.
"Important validation for the market," by the way, is standard startup-speak for "Thank God, maybe someone will buy us now." Above, Gawker video guy Nick McGlynn shows us a yummy cupcake on Justin.tv.

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<![CDATA[YouTube cofounder casually promises to wipe out Ustream, Justin.tv]]> In the clip above, Steve Chen tells us YouTube plans to add live streaming by the end of 2008. And, from her voiceover, that Pop17's Sarah Meyers would love a Philippe Dauman Jr. party.

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<![CDATA[If these are the four most eligible men in tech, we have a problem]]> Cashmore.jpgMashable's Pete Cashmore may be a looker, but is he the best Silicon Valley can do? Seems so. Take a look at the Google toppers, for example: Larry? Taken. Sergey? Taken. Eric Schmidt? Taken. Taken. Taken. But don't worry, the Nob Hill Gazette has you covered with its latest "annual roundup of the Most Desirable, Most Adorable, Brainy and Brassy" bachelors. It's a long list, but of course there are only four tech representatives. Vote for your favorite in our Valleywag poll.

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<![CDATA[Party correspondent confronts ghosts of Yelp parties past]]> Yelp, the local-reviews site, is as infamous in San Francisco as it is nonfamous anywhere else in the country. Its parties, always hedonistic rampages of drunken conversations, burlesque troops, and makeout sessions in the photobooth, helped establish its local reputation and cement the loyalty of hardcore users. (Even the founders get in on the action!) Last night, Yelp held its holiday party at the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts. Upon entering, I was greeted by a mass of San Francisco Yelptards, each louder than the next, all laughing, cajoling, flirting, and hugging each other. Self-congratulations were clearly in order.

The insular crowd, however, all but ensured I'd meet up with Ghosts of Valleywag Past. No, not a spectral Nick Douglas or a scary Nick Denton — but other people I've read about, or written about. That vaguely familiar girl chatting with Jeremy Stoppelman? Oh! It's his ex-girlfriend Liza, reportedly the center of love triangle involving Valley good-time-guy Sean Parker. There's Steve Chen, the YouTube founder, with spiky hair and glasses, holding hands with his girlfriend while bidding Stoppelman adieu. Over there, by the bar, is Ooma CEO Andrew Frame, wearing a form-fitting leather jacket and sporting bangs. Bangs? Really? And Keith Rabois, the ex-PayPaler now at Slide, with the controversial Stanford history.

Then I met Snocap founder Jordan Mendelson, whose appearance with a bevy of beauties at last year's Yelp party lead us to crown him the Valley's newest bad boy. Boy did we peg him wrong. My first thought, after taking in his supreme untallness, was that he seemed like such a nice guy. And so unassuming. The expression of smug self-satisfaction in last year's pictures was missing. As was, apparently, his job.

I asked about Snocap, the troubled music startup he founded with Shawn Fanning, whom he worked with at Napster. Mendelson confirmed our rumor that he had left for another project. So, was he going to indulge his Valleywag-created persona and party hearty all night? Sadly, no. Mendelson begged off early during the afterparty at Mr. Smith's, in order to prepare for a venture meeting today. The bad boys are growing up — or at least learning when they need to put on appearances.

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<![CDATA[Vimeo founder calls YouTube founders "evil"]]> LodwickBalls.jpgFor a minute or two, there was some glimmer of hope that YouTube would allow users to upload their videos in HD. Not so, Silicon Alley Insider clarifies. But while chaos reigned in high-definition for a few moments, oft-naked Vimeo founder and HD-video advocate Jakob Lodwick took the opportunity to take a few shots at YouTube.

"YouTube is an illicit organization built upon a self-destructive philosophy," Lodwick writes, calling Youtube's copyright policies "evil." Now that YouTube is owned by don't-be-evil Google, those are fighting words.

Lodwick also mocks YouTube founders Steve Chen and Chad Hurley for managing to upload all of two videos the past year. Lodwick himself uploads videos every couple of minutes. And, if you're into publicity stunts — like the one about the Vimeo employee who met the girl of his dreams on the subway and then created a Web site to find her — they can be entertaining.

But Lodwick has to understand, Chen and Hurley are much to busy counting to 1.65 billion to make videos about televised fights with their girlfriends.

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<![CDATA[YouTube founder thinks this is good enough]]> Steve Chen just told a conference that he thinks HD isn't a high priority because video on YouTube is "good enough." To which I say:

The above has been called categorically stupid by Jakob Lodwick, founder of Vimeo, a video sharing service that provides HD video, as well as a normal quality higher than YouTube's:

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<![CDATA[YouTube founders tell famous fib to Oprah]]>
YouTube founder Steve Chen, on the Oprah show, recites the same old tale he and Chad Hurley have been trained to give about how YouTube got his start: Chen threw a dinner party, friends filmed each other with videocameras, and then realized the videos were hard to share. What the two didn't tell Oprah: YouTube's third cofounder, Jawed Karim, claims the dinner party never happened, and he came up with the idea for a video-sharing site.

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<![CDATA[The billionaire chat show]]>
YouTube cofounders Chad Hurley and Steve Chen went on Oprah today. Most of it was eminently skippable pap, the kind Hurley and Chen have been trained by Google PR to recite. But the money shot? Well, it was when Winfrey, who's worth $1.5 billion, asked Hurley and Chen whether Google's $1.65 billion purchase of YouTube had changed their lives. Oh, no, the pair demurred. They don't think about money. They were much too busy working on new features. And going on Oprah.

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<![CDATA[Oprah starts a YouTube channel]]> Oprah Winfrey is launching her own YouTube channel. It will have clips and behind-the-scenes footage from her show. The unveiling will occur November 6 on the Oprah show along with YouTube founders Chad Hurley and Steve Chen, Tyson the skateboarding dog and Judson Laipply, the "Evolution of Dance" guy. That'll be a fun show to watch. Hope someone posts it on YouTube.

Seriously, if anyone can make a YouTube channel work, it's Winfrey. Her show grabs 5 million viewers a day, and presumably some of them have computers. On the other hand, her past Web performance does not bode well for the venture. The last Oprah foray onto the web was the Oxygen cable-net/website which imploded and was sold off to NBC Universal, long after Winfrey had backed out of the venture.

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